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Rigaud · 2008-02-13 15:52:25

Well, seems like we have a few amature and some pro photographers here so why not start this thread.

I just got a used Canon D30 camera and received it yesterday but it's in new condition. I'm not on a tight budget for any of my toys, just depends how fast my expendable cash flow comes in. I pay cash for just about everything no matter what.

So I have the following;

Canon D30
Tamron 28-70 F/3.5-5.6"

I'm looking for a flash, undermount powerpack, 50mm fix lens and something to replace the Tamron or just keep it for now till it gives out.

Suggestions???

mh-imaging · 2008-02-13 16:10:28

new lenses you should get for the season

a sigma 18-50 F/2.8, superb optical quality, goes for 350$ new
a sigma 50-150 F/2.8 HSM, superb opticalquality, nice focal lenght, lens of the year, and very fast, goes for 600$
a canon 50mm F/1.8, sharpest lense available, ice focal lenght, super dupe fast, goes for 90$ new
a nice, super wide angle, such as a sigma 10-20, tokina 12-24 F/4, the tokina is better built and faster but the only available on ebay, sigma is allot wider .both goes for about 500$ each

flashes:

Canon 580EX
Canon 580EXII
canon 430EX

cards

get some sandisk extreme IV 2,4 gb cards
as well as a nice tripod, believe me, you can always justify the price of a good tripod, get a manfrotto 190Xprob, it goes for about 160$ legs only, 200 with a head.
get a nice camera bag, you will like the dakine sequence, they were made for sports photographer, they're big, comfy and don't look like a cam bag, otherwise, a tamrac expedition 5(i use the larger one)
get some filters, for portrait especially, You will need a UV filter for each of your lenses to protect them from scratch mostly, you would like to have a neutral density filter, a graduated filter, a circular polarizer
get a good shutter release cable, to minimize camera shake when on tripod for long exposition

get the adobe lightroom software, download the trial, and well, if you feel like a "thief", you can easily go on google for serials, its the best software available, and becomes a killer when you use photoshop cs2 or cs3 as the big gun

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doctorz · 2008-02-13 18:18:31

me im not so lucky but got what i could i bought a kodak z710 at wal smarch for 220$ 7.1mpx it not as good as you guys but im sure you can guide me to some pointer in how to set it up i know how set up a digital camcorder camera because we use these at my job all the time but taking picture is an art form that cannot be easely master i was looking at micheal portfolio on deviant and its awesoem wish my small kodak will turn out some decent picture than my phone camera
lol
cheers
Francois

HypNoTic · 2008-02-14 07:14:35

I own a Canon Rebel XT and it does the job for what I need. I would prefer a "D" serie camera body since the Rebel is freaking small in my hand. At some point, I will probably add the battery grip.

I *LOVE* my Canon 17-85 IS USM F/4-5.6 but wish I could add at least 2 other. A Canon 50 F/1.8 and some fish eye, most likely a Sigma for price consideration.

I have a basic UV and a polarized filter. The UV filter is always on the lens, and I sometime use the polarized. The "no-brand-name" cost about 50$ instead of 100+ and it works well enough for me. Got those at Simon's Camera, downtown Montreal. Maybe not as sharp as some other but more than enough for me.

For the flash, give a look at http://www.sigmaphoto.com/flashes/flash … p?id=3257. Paid less than 250$ shipped to my door. Specs are pretty close to the Canon 580EX for half the price. Do yourself a favor and get a 4000mA NiMH rechargeable battery kit. Cost about 50$ at FutureShop. I have a Panasonic kit that still rocks after 1 year - only downside, it start to show some sign of its age when it's very cold outside. Flash recharge time is longer and battery drain faster.

I have a Manfrotto tripod that I paid about 140$ at LLLozeau. I'm very happy to have paid the premium to have a strong, stable tripod with a good head. It does make a huge difference.

That's for the big camera. I also own a little Canon A70 that I keep in my Camelback but I've tried a Canon SD-1000 last weekend and really enjoyed it.

"a canon 50mm F/1.8, sharpest lense available, ice focal lenght, super dupe fast, goes for 90$ new" -MH
--> should that be 900$ instead of 90$ ???

BrokenSpoke · 2008-02-14 07:49:47

i have a 2 mega pixel sony w810i. oh wait thats a cell phone. my first camera as well. i love watching good pics its just i never felt the compultion to take them.

HypNoTic · 2008-02-14 08:46:06

Like every beginner photog, I'm trigger happy. Just topped the 10K photo on the Rebel last weekend... and 16K on the other cam.

LOL

mh-imaging · 2008-02-14 11:34:45

HypNoTic a écrit:
I own a Canon Rebel XT and it does the job for what I need. I would prefer a "D" serie camera body since the Rebel is freaking small in my hand. At some point, I will probably add the battery grip.

I *LOVE* my Canon 17-85 IS USM F/4-5.6 but wish I could add at least 2 other. A Canon 50 F/1.8 and some fish eye, most likely a Sigma for price consideration.

I have a basic UV and a polarized filter. The UV filter is always on the lens, and I sometime use the polarized. The "no-brand-name" cost about 50$ instead of 100+ and it works well enough for me. Got those at Simon's Camera, downtown Montreal. Maybe not as sharp as some other but more than enough for me.

For the flash, give a look at http://www.sigmaphoto.com/flashes/flash … p?id=3257. Paid less than 250$ shipped to my door. Specs are pretty close to the Canon 580EX for half the price. Do yourself a favor and get a 4000mA NiMH rechargeable battery kit. Cost about 50$ at FutureShop. I have a Panasonic kit that still rocks after 1 year - only downside, it start to show some sign of its age when it's very cold outside. Flash recharge time is longer and battery drain faster.

I have a Manfrotto tripod that I paid about 140$ at LLLozeau. I'm very happy to have paid the premium to have a strong, stable tripod with a good head. It does make a huge difference.

That's for the big camera. I also own a little Canon A70 that I keep in my Camelback but I've tried a Canon SD-1000 last weekend and really enjoyed it.

"a canon 50mm F/1.8, sharpest lense available, ice focal lenght, super dupe fast, goes for 90$ new" -MH
--> should that be 900$ instead of 90$ ???

Nope, the 900$ version is the 50mm F/1.2 L lens, the 1.8 is available at any el-cheapo camera store.

mh-imaging · 2008-02-14 11:35:47

HypNoTic a écrit:
Like every beginner photog, I'm trigger happy. Just topped the 10K photo on the Rebel last weekend... and 16K on the other cam.

LOL

yeah, when I had the d80, it went trough 135 000, the d200 at its limit, 200 000 and the d2hs, well im a 15 000 now, and still going up

hehe

ETZ... · 2008-02-14 11:52:49

i have a good old school Nikon Nikkormat 35mm from the 70's

works like a dream...

i also have a coolpix which is decent for digital

Rigaud · 2008-02-14 15:16:21

Today I went to Orford @ Camp Jouvence to get one of my daughters on a 3 day trip with the school, she fell ill so I drove there and back to get her. I took my camera with me and took some shots at the camp and along the way back with my daughter since she liked some of the scenerie and asked me too. I shot my images in RAW, pain in the ass to convert them afterwards and I'm new with these high end camera's compared to 35mm. Should I shoot in RAW or not? What's the real difference and this is a question for the pro's please since I'm educating myself here and trust me I learn very fast.

Thank you in advance.

Cheers
John

Daniel · 2008-02-14 15:23:37

Shoot in RAW. The PITA is worth it.

You have much more possibilities to make adjustments with the software settings...instead of already compressed JPEG.

Of course, you can do some corrections with PS on JPEG, but each time you save a JPEG, you loose some quality.

Also, you have the EXIF's (informations *name, camera body serial number, lense serial number, camera settings, etc* written in every picture you take)

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DrDevil87 · 2008-02-14 17:00:00

Viens me voir au futureshop ste-dorothée
J'ai un deal pour le battery grip (accessory kit : Battery grip + batterie extra + un beau sac lowepro) pour 169.99 au lieu de 299.99
Il m'en reste 1 a ce prix la. C'est un prix clearance.

J'ai aussi le 430ex (flash)
des bons deals sur les memory cards et sur des tripieds.

pm moi pour mes heures de travail et pour savoir si je l'ai pas vendu si sa t'intéresse

Ps : 50mm f1.8
130 piaces new.
90 en spécial (parfois)
le meilleur bang for the buck.

PPS : Hypno : accessorykit rebel xt/xti : Batt Grip + extra bat + adapteur pour doubleA + sac + flitre pour la lentille de base. about 314.99 (le grip + batt seulement valent plus que sa.)

PPPS : Etz : Got any lenses to sell? i'm using the d80 and I'd like to get some new lenses.

PPPPS : How do I convert raw? I dont know how to convert it so i shoot in jpeg extra fine.
I'd shoot Raw + jpegxtrafine instead

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Rigaud · 2008-02-14 17:53:43

Thanks Daniel,

Just the type of replies I like. Simple and to the point.

I really enjoyed taking pictures with this camera today and had fun. Actually everyone on this thread is giving cool info.

mh-imaging · 2008-02-14 19:22:22

DrDevil87 a écrit:
Viens me voir au futureshop ste-dorothée
J'ai un deal pour le battery grip (accessory kit : Battery grip + batterie extra + un beau sac lowepro) pour 169.99 au lieu de 299.99
Il m'en reste 1 a ce prix la. C'est un prix clearance.

J'ai aussi le 430ex (flash)
des bons deals sur les memory cards et sur des tripieds.

pm moi pour mes heures de travail et pour savoir si je l'ai pas vendu si sa t'intéresse

Ps : 50mm f1.8
130 piaces new.
90 en spécial (parfois)
le meilleur bang for the buck.

PPS : Hypno : accessorykit rebel xt/xti : Batt Grip + extra bat + adapteur pour doubleA + sac + flitre pour la lentille de base. about 314.99 (le grip + batt seulement valent plus que sa.)

PPPS : Etz : Got any lenses to sell? i'm using the d80 and I'd like to get some new lenses.

PPPPS : How do I convert raw? I dont know how to convert it so i shoot in jpeg extra fine.
I'd shoot Raw + jpegxtrafine instead

tu le converti pas, tu met sa dans lightroom, photoshop, pictureproject ou nikon capture nx

pss: son battery pac, ce n'est pas pour les 30d, mais bien le d30, totallement different, et seulment disponible sur ebay ou amazon

honnetement, pour le trepied, je crois que john est mieu de se pogner un vrai bon trepied, genre un bogen, gitzo, giottos ou manfrotto. D'avoir un bon trepied, c'est d'avoir dieu de ton bord

DrDevil87 · 2008-02-14 20:20:34

c'est quoi la différence entre 30d et d30?
sorry. Tu m'a perdu. lol
J'ai juste penser "hey. J'ai un fucking bon deal sur sa moi."
lol

Ps : quand je met les fichier dans photoshop cs2 sa fonctionne pas.

Dernière modification par DrDevil87 (2008-02-14 20:21:12)

mh-imaging · 2008-02-15 03:52:17

comme je te dit depuis le debut, pogne toi adobe lightroom.

canon 30d

canon d30

Daniel · 2008-02-15 04:24:39

DrDevil87 a écrit:
Ps : quand je met les fichier dans photoshop cs2 sa fonctionne pas.

Il n'y a aucune raison pour que cela ne fonctionne pas à moins que ta version soit incomplète ou que tes paramètres soient configurés de façon à ignorer les fichiers .RAW (CR2)... Inutile de te procurer Lightroom pour cette seule raison.

Si tu as un appareil numérique, sers-toi des logiciels qui viennent avec. Tu peux y faire tes ajustements et convertir une batch de photo en JPEG.

@John,

Les battery grips, c'est bon uniquement pour ceux qui ont de grandes mains (et dans lesquelles l'appareil semble perdu).
C'est infiniment plus fashion-shit que pratique...ça donne un look "pro" à un appareil qui ne l'est pas.
Le second déclencheur n'est définitivement pas essentiel (le positionnement de la main est plus confortable sur le dessus de l'appareil lorsqu'on shoote du portrait) sans parler du poid inutile généré par la seconde batterie en plus du pack. À la limite, ça donne une place pour le petit doigt...
Un élément à ne pas négliger, plus l'appareil est volumineux, plus il a l'air dispendieux... plus il est attirant pour les voleurs...

Je n'ai jamais manqué de puissance avec une seule batterie bien chargée et si besoin était, j'en ai une seconde dans ma poche. Peu importe la longueur du shooting ou du nombre de photos (+ ou - 400...je ne suis pas du genre à tirer pour rien).

Résultat du kit "Battery Grip+Sac+Battery":

Battery grip= Vraiment superflu

Sac de transport= Ridicule...achète un VRAI sac de transport (et c'est vraiment un essentiel)...pas une pareille guenille qui n'offre pas d'espace. Sac à dos Lowepro qui te permettra de protéger ton appareil, tes objectifs, de transporter ton trépied et ton kit de nettoyage. Il y a même de la place pour un portable...tes clés, ton porte-feuille et un petit casse-croûte.

Batterie secondaire= Achète une générique à 35$.

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Rigaud · 2008-02-15 05:29:53

Merci Daniel encore,

Oui je ne suis pas de type qui cherche a faire parraitre détre un pro et deja la D30 est asser lourde en plus une foie un objectif de 200mm ou plus est installer ca va etre un block de ciment. Donc je vais pour línstant me procurer une deuxieme batterie et un bon sac et justement je regarde pour un sac come tu suggere pour tous avoir avec moi.

A mon encienne employe j'avais access aux produits de Sony et Canon "Dealer Cost" et je suis fort probablement capable d'avoir les meme prix puise que j'ais guarder mes contact avec eux.

Rigaud · 2008-02-15 06:39:05

Daniel, like this one which has the space for all you mentioned for $160 cdn.

Daniel · 2008-02-15 07:22:44

Looks like mine.

Besure it has a "raincoat". It is concealed in the lower part. VERY important when you shoot on a rainy day...on a dirty trail when mud fly everywhere...

A very good choice indeed.

Rigaud · 2008-02-15 07:25:00

I beleive it does have the raincoat and in the description all the compartments for photo equipment and a laptop are included. I guess that's the choice I'll make.

Daniel · 2008-02-15 07:41:41

You'll be happy with it.

I'm using mine since May 2005 and never failed. It doesn't show any sign of aging, no tear or whatever and Gods know i'm using it a lot.

Be sure to secure you camera on TOP of the backpack...NOT on the lower part. When you drop your pack, even if there's lots of padding, it can be dangerous for the body and lenses.

And KEEP IT FIRMLY CLOSE BEFORE putting the bag on your shoulders...i learned it few months ago...BANG CRASH SNAP! OH NO, F*CKING LORD!!!

HypNoTic · 2008-02-15 09:28:09

Proud owner of a brand new Canon 50 F/1.8

Thanks all

Rigaud · 2008-02-15 09:35:58

HypNoTic a écrit:
Proud owner of a brand new Canon 50 F/1.8

Thanks all

How much???

Daniel · 2008-02-15 09:40:25

HypNoTic a écrit:
Proud owner of a brand new Canon 50 F/1.8

Thanks all

Very good choice.
The 50mm 1.4 is losing ground...

For those who want to have informations on lenses BEFORE buying them, look there:

www.photozone.de

Click on the "Review" icon and you'll get a very nice listing of Canon/Nikon lenses with a detailled review. I spent few hours on it before buying. A must!

IAmRider

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